So apparently the pornography thing is a big topic at the moment… at least among a few sites that I read….. so here’s another one here. First, I’m going to post another one of the pamphlets from Porn Free Youth, and then, I am going to write a little bit.

Here’s the pamphlet:

Shedding Light On the Lies

This is a day and age soaked in sex and sexuality. It is used both subtly and openly in all forms of advertising, as well as showing up as the primary subject matter and focus in all forms of the media. It is what is focused on in today’s relationships, being both the primary reason for and the goal of many of them. It is a primary influence on today’s fashions and ideas, reaching into and touching upon almost every aspect of our lives. Sexual lifestyles are as varied and available as toppings at a salad bar, and heterosexuality (unless it is a very active form of it) is viewed as somewhat prudish and boring. Pornography and its ideals have workedthemselves into the entire spectrum of society, influencing how we approach, interact with, and think about other people, animals, and even inanimateobjects. Sex is viewed, whether consciously or unconsciously, as the underlying purpose, goal, and meaning of life as a whole, and if we are not involved with it and experimenting with it, we are taught that something just simply must be wrong with us. Sexually-oriented fiction is being taught as fact throughout our society, cementing lies as truth in many of our minds.


Some words from Matt DeBenedictis of PFY….

My first exposure to pornography came when I was 15 years old. Like many others’ first experiences, I was exposed to porn when one of my peers introduced it to me. Pornography didn’t seem to me to be anything of great interest at first, but then puberty hit (and all of the begging questions concerning sexuality that come with it). Pornography seemed to provide an answer to those questions, in a way that was easily accessible. So it was that I began to view pornography every once in a while in order to fulfill my sexual curiosities.

By the time I was 17 the fantasy world of pornography had become the place in which I could hide from all my struggles in life. Not only was I learning how to act in a sexual way from the pornography I engaged in, but I was also seeing my whole worldview (including the context in which I viewed other people) being changed by pornography. The types of pornography I had first involved myself with became mediocre and boring to me in time, and so I moved on to pornography of a more hardcore nature, and so on and so forth. In accordance with my engaging in more and more hardcore pornography, my worldview again was being warped and changed. My whole life was being shaped and changed in subtle, deep-reaching ways by something that I had looked to at first for simple education.

I soon began to question the whole sexual ideology that I had embraced. I went to the writings of scholars and current sexologists, only to find again and again the reoccurring theme and phrase of “If you enjoy it, then it’s healthy for you”. That idea just didn’t add up to me, so I did some research. Eventually I found facts and truths concerning pornography that were not based on biases. I soon began to realize that all I had been taught to embrace sexually was not only hurting myself, but was also causing a downward slope of degradation within our society as a whole.

I eventually started to see through the lies we have been taught by the media and the sexual education system regarding pornography. We are being taught that pornography is harmless and, in the end, is actually beneficial to society. That mindset cannot be further from the truth. Pornography takes the most powerful form of communication (that of a sexual nature) and treats sex like a commodity to be bought and sold, pre-packaged and in whatever form you want it. Pornography tries to say that it does not have negative affects on anyone, and teaches that everyone and anyone can simply be viewed as an object with which to pursue one’s own sexual satisfaction. This is not a healthy or beneficial lesson for any society.

PFY seeks to shed light on these lies, and others concerning pornography and sexuality, because we do not want others to have to go through what we have been through. Everyone on the PFY staff has had their lives scarred in some way by pornography, and its resulting sexual ideology and expectations. In that, we know what it is for someone to struggle with sexual addiction, and the pain and destruction it can cause in one’s life. For that reason, Porn Free Youth does not involve itself in the picketing of porn shops, strip clubs, or other businesses of a sexually-oriented nature. We do not see the people who own, work at, or frequent these stores as the enemy, nor do we view the people (actors, actresses, directors, etc.) within the porn industry itself as enemies to be attacked. We see these people as simply men and women that we want to help; people who have been misled and lied to by the very business that they are involved in.
PFY is not a militant organization, nor are we a political one. We believe that genuine change occurs not through the passing of laws or the siding with political parties, but through expressing the truth to people in love, and helping them in any way we can.

PFY

The thought that I would like to add to this, is something that constantly sticks out to me, and that C.S. Lewis touched on in the book “Mere Christianity”. And that is this… one of the facts that you can read about in the PFY brochures… is that there are nearly THREE TIMES as many porn outlets in the United States as there are McDonalds in the united States. Think about that. You see a McDonalds every couple of blocks in most cities. So here’s the point. The obsession with sex that American society (and others) has is NOT a healthy thing. Food is something that you need to survive. Sex is something that is needed to survive, in that, it is how humans reproduce. Now, think about this. Sex is certainly needed… because, well, humanity certainly needs to go on… but it is needed in the proper context… just as food is needed in the proper context. If you eat ALL the time, it is unhealthy, if you eat the wrong things, it is unhealthy. There is nothing wrong with eating, it’s a good thing… the problem comes in the ABUSE of eating. It is the same way with sex. To borrow C.S. Lewis’ example… picture a society in which people sit and look through magazines filled with food and drool over them and are basically obsessed with them. Something is wrong there. It’s not healthy, it’s perverse, just as pornography is a perversion of sex.

Comments and thoughts are welcome.

And thanks to Age for the shoutout from her site πŸ˜‰

Godspeed.

(note: tomorrow I will post the list of facts they give concerning pornography.)

19 thoughts on “”

  1. So are violent movies the cause of violence in out society? Are Vidio games the cause of our youth killing eachother? Now as to homosexualty not being a normal way of acting… *Something was said to that point in the anti porn propaganda* Le sigh. Being a bisexual and KNOWING that I was different since I was very very little has changed my view on sexuality. NOT The fact that I read erotica or look at pictures of naked men and women. If this group gets their way of the elemination of porn what’s next? Is it paganism? Abortion? Free speach?

  2. No, violent movies are not the cause of violence in our society. They are probably an influence in SOME of the violence, but they are not the cause of it. Nor are video games the problem.

    Yes, I think that homosexuality IS a perversion of sex. Up until very recently it WAS considered a mental disorder, and it definately still should be. Sorry if you disagree with me, I hold nothing against you for your bisexuality, but I do feel that it is not right. If you feel yourself having legitimate feelings of sexual attraction towards persons of the same sex, then, well, something mentally is wrong.

    Your viewing of pornographic material DOES change you. I know this for a fact. It is subtle, it is slow, but it warps your perception. This group isn’t out to rob you of your freedom, their goal isn’t even neccessarily to outlaw pornography. It is to get people to realize what it is doing to them and STOP.

    No one is going to try to outlaw anyone else’s belief system. And if it were to happen to any religion, it would happen to Christianity, as that is the only religion it is still socially acceptable to hate/bash/etc.

    As far as abortion goes, and to touch on your comment further down… No, I have never been raped. I know what rape does to a person though, as I know someone who has been raped. You forget though… it’s not about whether or not it’s painful for the mother to have that child. You know what? Stuff happens, and it’s bad stuff, and it’s painful stuff, but that doesn’t mean taking the easy way out is the right way. There is another person’s life involved. That child didn’t do anything to you. That child deserves a shot at life. It has a right to live. Should you take that child’s life, not only are you taking away their life, you are taking them away from the world. All the things they could have contributed, all the peoples’ lives they would have otherwise affected, are suddenly not going to be touched by that child’s life. I’m not going to sit here and recite the names of people who effected the world in great ways that by standards I’m sure you’d tell me are acceptable for an abortion. There are plenty of them, and I’m sure you know it. Painful? Yeah, I can see how it would be painful to give birth to a child after being raped. Do I buy that a woman is incapable of overcoming that? Do you expect me to believe that that mother will not love that child every bit as much as if the child had been conceived from her husband? I know that she would. I don’t believe that women are as weak and feeble and pathetic as society makes them out to be. I think they are fully capable of enduring the way that is right.

    Do you realize that abortion has, in the past, been used as a form of ethnic cleansing? Yeah, Planned Parenthood, in it’s early days of pro-abortion, had an agenda…. it’s agenda was to cut back on the births of black people. Go read up on it, I assure you, it’s true. Since this issue is coming up, I will be more then happy to post fully on the subject of abortion…. after I get some sleep πŸ™‚

    This is much longer then what I thought I would be writing.. but.. that’s ok.

    *awaits more comments*

  3. Muwahaha. And comments you shall get.
    Yar. Kudos to those women. They are expetionaly strong. They can see something bad and turn it around. One of my friends is one of these kids. Her mother was raped but because of her relgion would not stop the pregnancy. But then. You get the vast majority of people. Who are so over come by the pain of the situation that they can not bear a child. If your god made the child *fetus… what ever…* And it indeed has a soul *I believe this firmly* Then he won’t mind resycling the soul. If the mother won’t want this… “gift”. I speak from experaince with this whole situation. And if I were attacked again and became pregnent by that attacker. I would have the abortion. With out a second thought in my mind.

    Now as to the fact that I have mental issues. Yes. I would aggree with that. Most of my family is in aggrement with that. BUT it’s not because I like girls too. It’s not a mental issue. And it’s not because I watch porn. tee hee.

  4. I love reading all the articles on the PFY website… theyΒ can back up their facts which is important to me.Β  I wholeheartedly agree with all you have posted on this subject.Β  I especially like what you wrote in the comments about “I don’t believe that women are as weak and feeble and pathetic as society makes them out to be. I think they are fully capable of enduring the way that is right.”Β  THANK YOU for that comment. I appreciate it.

  5. I’m not quite ready for another post yet, but here’s something I found while looking around just a bit now…. it relates to abortions in the case of rape.

    “Q: I personally know that abortion is wrong, but what if a woman is raped? Wouldn’t carrying a baby only make her situation worse?

    A: Rape is a horrendous crime, leaving a woman in a state of mental, physical and emotional turmoil. If a woman becomes pregnant as the result of rape (this occurs less than 1% of the time) an abortion will not erase the fact that she was raped. Submitting the woman to a second unspeakable act of violence (abortion) will not take away the trauma, the nightmares, or the pain, but it may add to them. According to a survey conducted by Dr. David Reardon of the Elliot Institute in 1990, the psychological complications of abortion include guilt, nervous disorders, nightmares, and memory loss (over 100 psychiatric reactions in all). Additionally, if there was a pre-existing disordered state (like rape) abortion may cause a worsening of psychological functioning.

    Because of problems with our justice system, rapists often walk free, without punishment while the child conceived because his or her mother was raped may suffer the ultimate injustice β€” abortion without the benefit of a trial or defense.

    We must remember, first and foremost that the person created as a result of rape is not to blame for the crime committed against the mother. Although this person is created as a result of a hideous violation, we cannot deny that he or she is still a unique individual human being created in the image of God, no matter what circumstances they are brought into this world. The child is just as innocent a victim and just as worthy of our protection and love as the mother.

    The good news is that women who become pregnant as a result of rape and carry their babies to term, experience an increased rate of healing, recognizing the blessing that has come from such a horrible situation.

    Unfortunately, the pro-abortion movement supports abortion in cases of rape at the expense of both victims; the women whose emotional, physical, and mental stability have been shattered by rape and abortion and the children who may have brought healing and peace had they been given the chance to live.”

  6. Ahem… A little article I found in regard to this… Um… Well… train of thought. Enjoy.
    Post-abortion stress syndrome” β€” PASS or PAS β€” sounds scientific, but don’t be fooled β€” it’s a made-up term. Not recognized as an official syndrome or diagnosis by the American Psychiatric Association , the American Psychological Association, or any other mainstream authority, it is a bogus affliction invented by the religious right. Those who claim its existence define it loosely as a raft of emotional problems that they say women suffer after having an abortion β€” nightmares, feelings of guilt, even suicidal tendencies β€” and compare it to post-traumatic stress disorder.

    Using the allure of outward compassion, dozens of anti-choice PAS organizations have sprung up in the last ten years, accompanied by books, pamphlets, billboards, and Web sites. From SafeHaven and Healing Hearts Ministries to Victims of Choice and Rachel’s Vineyard β€” a project of the anti-choice American Life League that operated its varied programs on a $7 million annual budget in 1999 β€” all of them insist that women who have had abortions suffer severe psychological damage that can be alleviated only with their assistance. Even though they call it a “syndrome,” they don’t recommend medical intervention.

    It’s anti-choice dirty-play at its worst. Because the groups believe that abortion is always a wrong choice, they often engage women in three steps toward recovery: confession of their mistake; reconciliation, usually through a ritual (Project Rachel, which is affiliated with the Catholic Church, takes women on retreats that include a “name your baby” ceremony and a “Mass for the Unborn”); and, finally, restitution of some sort. Of course, “the way to make recompense is usually to speak out against abortion,” says Rev. Cynthia Bumb, an activist who has followed PAS activity closely. The groups tell PAS sufferers to lobby for anti-choice legislation; Afterabortion.org helps women get started with model bills, like the “Protection from High Risk and Coerced Abortion Act.” Another route to “recovery” is to sue an abortion provider for malpractice. At the Web site of the anti-choice Justice Foundation β€” actually a malpractice firm, not a foundation β€” viewers are greeted by a burst of thunder, followed by a voice: “If you’ve been physically or emotionally injured by abortion, don’t suffer in silence.” You can “talk to an aggressive attorney today,” the voice says. “You don’t have to be a victim for the rest of your life.” Their hope is that malpractice claims will eventually put abortion clinics out of business, even if protesters do not.

    Claiming that abortion causes women psychological suffering conveniently flips the debate so that the anti-choice movement seems less callous toward women’s concerns and more focused on women’s “health.” This cynical pro-woman/pro-life scheme was honed by David C. Reardon, director of the anti-choice Elliot Institute in Springfield, Illinois β€” the organization behind Afterabortion.org β€” who realized that the fetus imagery of the “pro-life” movement was failing to sway the masses because too much of the public believes that women will suffer if abortion is criminalized. In fact, an October 2000 Gallup poll found that two-thirds of Americans surveyed said they are against a constitutional amendment that would overturn the right to abortion established in Roe v. Wade. In March 2001, only 18 percent of the people polled told Gallup they want abortion to be illegal in all circumstances. But Reardon asserts that many people who support abortion are “uneasy pragmatists” who “have hardened their hearts to the baby because they think at least women are being helped.” In his book, The Jericho Plan: Breaking Down The Walls Which Prevent Post-Abortion Healing, Reardon describes his new strategy for making the anti-choice movement appear pro-woman, bringing down the walls of choice by convincing the public “about the dangers of abortion.” And since legal abortion is, in fact, a very safe surgical procedure and is far less dangerous than childbirth, Reardon and his allies seek to foment mental pain. “So as we educate [the public] about how abortion hurts women, it changes the whole equation,” Reardon told Priests for Life. “The potential of post-abortion healing . . . can rapidly change the whole dynamic of the abortion debate in this country. And I am really confident that we will see an end to abortion within the decade.”

    His formula calls for “stealth healers” (his term) to offer mercy and forgiveness to women who have had abortions β€” he calls them “post-aborted women” β€” and then use them as “compelling advocates for the unborn.” Says Reardon: “By demanding legal protection for women forced into unwanted abortions and greater rights for women to sue for post-abortion trauma, we force our opponents to side with us in defending women’s rights or [to] be exposed as defending the abortion industry at the expense of women.” He wants the message of the antiabortion movement to be, “abortion hurts women.” And he’s getting his wish. During the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia last year, a string of anti-choice protesters spread out on a street in a “human life chain,” holding the same sign: abortion hurts women.

    Of course, the overwhelming scientific evidence shows that abortion does not hurt women β€” physically or mentally. In the late 1980s, President Reagan tried a strategy similar to Reardon’s and asked his like-minded surgeon general, C. Everett Koop, to conduct a study on the mental pain caused by abortion. To everyone’s surprise, Koop determined that there was insufficient evidence of trauma. Psychological problems were “minuscule from a public health perspective,” he said. The American Psychological Association followed up by asking a group of six experts to undertake a special review. The panel concluded in 1989 that terminating an unwanted pregnancy posed no hazard to women’s mental health. The predominant sensation women felt following an abortion was relief, the group said.

    And in August 2000, a study conducted by Brenda Major at the University of California at Santa Barbara β€” the latest among many β€” confirmed those findings. Severe post-abortion psychological distress is extremely rare, affecting just one percent of patients. “Most women were satisfied with their decision, and believed that they had benefited more than they had been harmed,” said Major, who, along with other researchers, tracked women for two years after they had first-trimester abortions (88 percent of abortions are performed in the first trimester, and therefore represent the typical experience). The best predictor of post-abortion mental health, it turns out, is a woman’s mental health prior to the abortion.

    “Abortion does not cure depression or bipolar disorders; nor does it cause them,” says Suzanne Poppema, a retired Seattle abortion provider, now an international consultant on reproductive health issues. She and many others have little tolerance for PAS β€” “because it doesn’t exist,” she says. The overwhelming emotion she witnessed at her clinic, she says, was relief; PAS is merely an attempt to scare women, and she points out that if women do feel negative emotions, they are probably a result of the antiabortion movement itself. After all, the picketers who scream “murderer” at women entering clinics are significant stress-inducers, too.

    Like Poppema, abortion rights organizations are quick to denounce PAS as the myth that it is. “The shame here is they look for women and seek to exploit them,” says Ron Fitzsimmons, executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers in Alexandria, Virginia, an association of independent clinics. When Project Rachel began its multicity anti-choice ad campaign in the Spring of 2000, the National Abortion Federation, the largest professional association of abortion providers, countered with a press conference that cited scientific studies disproving post-abortion stress. “This is an invention of those who oppose choice,” says Vicki Saporta, NAF’s executive director.

    Abortion does not “hurt” women and there is no such thing as “Post Abortion Syndrome,” but it’s also true that women who feel relief after having an abortion may also have normal feelings of sadness, grief, or regret. An unwanted pregnancy alone can create significant anxiety. With the clock ticking, a woman is forced to decide between very limited options, each of them stressful. The alternatives to abortion β€” carrying a pregnancy to term and either keeping the child or making an adoption placement β€” can have a serious impact on a woman’s mental health. Rosemary Candelario, a longtime abortion rights activist and current director of the Massachusetts Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, points out that it is important for pro-choice organizations to recognize that some women, especially those with religious backgrounds, may have difficulty making the decision to terminate the pregnancy: “I think the fear in the movement is if we admit abortion is hard for some women, then we’re admitting that it’s wrong, which is totally not the case. I’ve heard from women who are having problems dealing with their abortion who are still ardently pro-choice.”

    Attributing a woman’s emotional problems to the simple fact that she had an abortion can detract from a full understanding of what is going on with her,” says Nancy Russo, a professor of psychology and women’s studies at Arizona State University and the author of multiple studies on the subject. Ava Torre-Bueno, a psychotherapist and the author of Peace After Abortion, says most of the women who come to her seeking counseling say, “I’m pro-choice. I’m still pro-choice. So why do I feel so bad?” Many are recovering from the sheer stress of making the decision to have an abortion. About one-quarter, she says, are grieving-sometimes for the fetus or what they might see as a life or potential life. Others are grieving another kind of loss: a breakup with a boyfriend or rupture with parents.

    Women’s real-life responses to abortion are “complex,” notes Gail B. Williams, an associate professor of nursing at the University of Texas, and are “associated with a mixture of feelings.” And the current political climate has only made things worse. In the days of back-alley abortions, “women felt lucky if they didn’t die,” says Susan Brownmiller, author of the feminist memoir In Our Time. Now, however, the atmosphere surrounding abortion is saturated with anti-choice rhetoric. “Women who sit in my clinic don’t see it as a right,” says Peg Johnston, director of Southern Tier Women’s Services near Binghamton, New York. “They’re scared.”

    What they are scared of is stigma, according to a little-noticed 1999 study by Brenda Major, the lead researcher of the U.C. Santa Barbara study, and psychologist Richard H. Gramzow, who found that approximately half the women in their study who had abortions felt a need to keep them secret from friends and/or family for fear of social disapproval. The effort of concealment itself was a major source of distress for women, the study said. “Women are hypersensitive to the sociopolitical climate and how it affects their feelings. This is the only medical procedure you can’t talk about,” says Dana Dovitch, a psychotherapist in Los Angeles and coauthor with Candace De Puy of The Healing Choice, a therapeutic handbook on abortion. In interviews across the country, women described to Dovitch the difficulty of creating a pretense at work, lying to relatives, avoiding friends. Torre-Bueno agrees. She noticed that emotional issues, especially feelings of guilt, began rising along with anti-choice efforts to restrict abortion. “More and more often, women would say, ‘I hope you won’t judge me,'” she says.

    In response to these forces, some pro-choice activists are trying new approaches. NAF has a hot line, staffed with trained personnel who are willing to help women sort through their issues and give referrals to psychotherapists. Both The Healing Choice and Peace After Abortion provide exercises to help women review why they made the decision to have an abortion and their feelings about it. Many clinics, depending on the community, offer in-house post-abortion counseling. Northland Family Planning Centers in Michigan offer referrals for counseling as standard service. Hope Medical Group for Women in Shreveport, Louisiana, which attracts patients from a wide geographic swath in the region, publishes “After Your Abortion . . . A Natural Response” on its Web site. It describes ways to cope with grief, anger, and sadness. Recently in St. Louis, Rev. Cynthia Bumb set up pro-choice counseling as an alternative to the local anti-choice post-abortion projects. “A woman can process her decision from a faith-based perspective without an assumption that she was wrong,” she says.

    In Binghamton, New York, Johnston offers women a polished stone before the abortion, and describes Native American and Buddhist rituals to help the healing process. “I tell them, ‘There is no Hallmark card for you, but it doesn’t mean you can’t honor your loss,'” she says. The touch is personal, but Johnston also sees this approach as a political act to erase the stigma of abortion and silence the anti-abortion thunder. “A lot of the rhetoric of the anti-choice movement has really burdened women,” says Johnston. “This is about listening to women-that’s what the women’s movement is about.”

    Cynthia L. Cooper writes about reproductive health issues.
    She lives in New York City.

  7. That is very long, but I also see it very much as propaganda, and more of an agenda to say, pro-choice is right, pro-life (or should I say “anti-choice”? what the crap is that?) is wrong. Yeah, Anti-Choice. Interesting terminology. Never in my reading of pro-life articles or websites have I *EVER* seen the pro-choice movement referred to as “anti-life”. That article likes to repeat that a lot. Anti-choice. Note how the issue of life is not mentioned in the article at all. It is conveniently left out.

    Also, it spends the whole first half of it saying “women do not suffer from guilt or regret”, and then the whole second half saying that they DO, but that it’s not abortions fault, it’s the “anti-choice” movements fault. I don’t doubt that recently feelings of regret, etc, have been rising for women after having an abortion. But you have to remember, that the RATE of abortions has been increasing EXPONENTIALLY.

    Anyway, not being one to take articles for their word, I looked into the American Psychiatric Assocition, and the American Psychological Association. Small wonder that they don’t recognize PAS as a disorder. They are both HIGHLY pro-choice organizations. As reading throught some articles on their website, I noted something I found rather interesting. In stating their stance on some court decision, they talk about partial birth abortions, and this is what they say: “The term “partial birth abortion” is not a medical term. The AMA will use the term “intact dilation and extraction.”” Hmmm… dilation and extraction, eh? That’s a pretty appealing way of saying “jabbing a pair of scissors into the back of a baby’s head and sucking out it’s brain, then crushing the baby’s head, just before the rest of the baby ‘s body is pulled the rest of the way out.” Dilation and extraction. It sounds so simple, just another procedure. Gee, I wonder why anyone would feel guilt after they had that done? Oh, it’s probably just because I told them it was wrong. Whatever.

    If the only organizations you feel “count” are the ones that are pro-choice (as our friend Cynthia L. cooper seems to believe), then it is very easy to say that there is no such thing as PAS.

    As to her “steps to healing”, that is total and complete bs. Ok, not completely, the first part of it is actually accurate. The part about restitution at the end is crap though. It is not part of the healing process that they have to go out and tell everyone not to have an abortion. Think about it. OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE NOT TO HAVE AN ABORTION. It hurt them, they are trying to save people from experiencing the same pain. Here are the steps I found listed on an actual pro-life site:

    (1) Counter the denial. Bring this back into her consciousness and admit she was a party to killing her own baby.

    (2) She must grieve over her lost child β€” tears, mourning as for another loved one.

    (3) Seek Divine forgiveness. This was not expected but seems essential for almost every woman.

    (4) Forgive others. Difficult, again, but some of this is needed to complete the healing and get rid of her long repressed anger.

    (5) Forgive herself. Not many get this far, but those who do have real inner peace. What is absolutely crucial at every step in the above is compassionate empathy, support and understanding from one or more persons around her. J. Willke, P.A.S. Five Steps on How You Can Help, Life Issues Connector, Mar. 1996

    Also, she says they say NOT to seek help from doctors, they say that MOST doctors aren’t much help, and that drugs don’t help. It is a gradual healing process. It’s sort of like if you were to witness someone murdering your mother, or your father, or your sister, or your brother… someone really close. There’s a lot of pain there. There isn’t ANYTHING that ANY DOCTOR can do about it. It is gradual healing.

  8. Wow…you never really realize something is a HUGE problem in the US until it’s really pointed out to you..I had no clue about the McDonalds example you gave..and my jaw literally dropped when I read that! That’s horrible that this country has a NEED to get through they’re lifes with such a perverse thing!!! God really needs to come down and smack some sense into these people the run these business..No..He needs to go beat some devil butt!!! Something I’d like to see! πŸ™‚

  9. “this is a great way to open people’s minds”

    to WHAT?!  that porno is a bad thing?!  what the hell?  i’m willing to stake a lot that you are a christian. not saying anything’s wrong with christians, it’s just that “morals” and such get a little skewed..  as for the porno-shops/mcdonalds thing..i think you should have used a better example…  hrm, people getting their rocks off and being less stressed vs. mcdonalds which while it is food, it’s BARELY food… riiiiiight.

    i could say a lot more but there’s already too much written. basically…yay to memmielou and as for you:

    you need to get laid.

  10. oh really? Is that what’s wrong with me? Obviously, anyone who isn’t obsessed with sexuality needs to have sex, because that is the all-important goal of life, right? Pornography has obviously already taken it’s toll on you.

  11. ok posting for the second time since it didn’t let me post the last time…

    ok…i didn’t say that anyone who isn’t obsessed with sexuality needs to have sex.  i know many people who aren’t obsessed and don’t need to have sex.  as for the second part of that, the goal of any species is the propogation (sp?) and continuation of its own kind, so yes, actually the all-important goal of life is sex for reproduction.

    as for me and pornography…there’s nothing wrong with it, but i don’t even watch pornos.  they’re boring.  just because i support it doesn’t mean i watch it; don’t make bloody assumptions.

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