Well, several days since an actual post. That was certainly interesting.
And now for a lesson in “beliefs vs. opinion vs. reality”.
It is true. Beliefs do not determine reality. Actually, that is one of my favorite quotes. Nor do opinions determine reality. Just because you believe something that doesn’t mean that it is true. You can believe it as hard as you want for as long as you want, but regardless, it will not be true, unless it was already true to begin with.
However, you also have to remember that truth exists. SOMETHING is true. Either God exists or God does not exist. One of those 2 statements is true, and it cannot go both ways. Therefore, if I believe that God exists, and you do not believe that God exists, one of us is right, and the other one is wrong. One of the 2 options is reality.
Now, if God exists, and I know that He exists, I should think that I should try and tell other people that He exists. I should think that other people would want to know that He exists.
In the same way, this works with lots of things. Abortion. Either it is murder, or it is not murder. It can’t be both, and it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of belief. There is a difference. Opinions are beliefs that are not built on facts, whereas beliefs can very often be built on facts. One of the beliefs is right. Either I’m right and you’re wrong, or you’re right, and I’m wrong.
And of course, the same goes for the pornography issue.
Do not tell me not to impose my beliefs on you, because I could very well be right. At somepoint, someone “believed” genocide to be wrong. By your logic of not imposing beliefs on others, who are you to say that genocide is, in fact, wrong? Hitler certainly had no problem whatsoever with genocide. Who are we to judge and condemn, and impose OUR BELIEFS on him, right? And don’t say it’s not the same thing, because it is. They are both beliefs as to whether something is right or wrong.
Hmmm… something to think about.
“Opinions are beliefs that are not built on facts” Not always true, sweetie. Example: Say i have the opinion that being shut up in a closet for hours as a kid causes claustrophobia in some people. My facts would be:
1. i was shut up in a closet for hours as a kid.
2. i now have claustrophobia because of that experience.
my opinion is based on fact.
and as for the hitler thing…i’m still right (heh) about not imposing beliefs on others because yes, hitler believed genocide was right but i still think that we shouldn’t try to impose “our beliefs” on him…i don’t think it’s something different at all. i don’t think he was right, but that’s me. he thinks he was right, and that’s him. it’s fine. the thing that WASN’T okay was that HE TRIED TO IMPOSE HIS BELIEFS ON OTHERS. do you see what i mean? if he had kept to himself then it would just be another nutty twit thinking about world domination. as it was he had to stick his cold wet nose into other people’s lives and see the madness that ensues?
and as for there being a right or wrong to everything or a “both people can’t be right”…both people CAN be right. take a woman walking on the street. you say she’s ugly, i say she’s beautiful. is one of us more right than the other? in our own minds, the other is “wrong” but in reality both are right because of beliefs. there cannot be a right or wrong concerning beliefs. if you believe in something (for example, God) that is YOUR BELIEF. you cannot make religion a cold, hard fact. it is impossible. while you may make it the foundation of YOUR OWN BEING, it is impossible to objectively call a religion (or lack thereof) right or wrong. i don’t know if you are able to understand this because you are religious, but i see many religions and i can see how each of them can make sense, and yet NONE are fact.
NONE.
you fanatic, die-hard christians may say what you like about God and Jesus being Lord and Saviour over all and how people like me are going to burn in hellfire forever, but religion is NOT FACT.
i’m going to stop now because you’ll probably respond as well as other people and i’m just gonna have to post more up anyways.
kdenz.
Its hard to say what is and what isnt…. its something I think about alot. Anything we take in is tainted by our opinions and thoughts/beliefs.
Im not going to say someone is wrong, if I dont understand the situation fully. Im not going to force my opinion on others… I think its basic respect. I just hope for the same respect in return.
Good post… as usual.
-Age
Silverstorm: I hate to say this, but you commited several logical fallicies and that is fact! you see either a “religion” is true or false… either it is all true or its false. sure maybe parts of some are true, but if its not all true then it as a whole is false… its like if you take a true/false quiz in school, and if part of a question is false the whole thing is false…
oh as for imposing beliefs, if someone is doing wrong and you love them, you have to tell them. I am sure the bongosolo would agree with me when I say that, without accountability there can be no love.
oh yeah and as far as things go in matters of fact only one thing can be right, for as you see one of my favortie quotes is… “before I cross the street I look both way…. its either the bus or me, not both!”
your thing about claustrophobia is a BELIEF, not an opinion. It is based on facts, and that is why. An opinion is your other example is some woman pretty? Is a certain song good? The answers to THOSE are opinions.
You say if Hitler had kept to himself then it would have been no problem, and that is what you have a problem with. 2 things there. It is YOUR belief that Hitler should have kept to himself. He obviously felt otherwise. Who’s wrong, him, or you? Also, It is impossible for him to commit genocide if he had kept to himself. The act itself REQUIRES that he carry it out on someone other then himself.
Has man landed on the moon? There are those that, despite overwhelming evidence, would still say that it was a hoax. It is their belief that man has not. But they are wrong. I think you would agree with me on that. REALITY says that man HAS landed on the moon. Beliefs that do not match up with that are wrong. Contradicting beliefs cannot both be right.
I have tons of opinons on this. *duh* but… don’t you think that there could be many truths? Not just ONE WAY or my way or the highway. It’s selfish and egotisical to believe that there is an all powerful and all loveing god up there. He’s either one fucked up son of a bitch, who loves seeing pain and suffering. Or he’s all loveing and can’t do anything about it.
Would Jesus make a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it?
It’s easyer for me to see “god” as a female deity who is all loveing but powerless to do anything. As my real father was killed my step father abused me. And if I put the pronoun god infrount of whom I worship… It all promotes fear.
*rubs hands together and smiles evilly* ahhhhh the madness begins again…
muahahaha…
“you see either a “religion” is true or false… either it is all true or its false”
ok so basically, in matters of fact, all religions are false because there are always going to be something false in each. BUT WAIT…how can you tell it’s false? *gasp* you can’t! mostly cuz religion is a state of mind….and how can you tell what’s in your mind? so what’s completely true for one would be completely false for another…wait that isn’t fact…that’s belief again…which can’t be diamond-hard true or false…
silverstorm, do you exist?
Wow, that’s impressive stuff…and now I’m confused..I think? haha.
do i exist? perhaps. or perhaps i’m merely a figment of the universe’s imagination.
I the figment of someone’s imagination. I have to be.
yar.
*arugh* Forgive the typing *and lack of spelling…* As I am the figment of someone eles imagination. *they should have imagined me WITHOUT dislexia.*
yar.
you know what? i’m glad this is a shorter post than last time. that way i don’t have to scroll down as far to go click on the “comments” link…
hmm..your entries always have a unique way of making me think… =)
yeah silverstorm, isn’t it great how you don’t even have to read what I say to assume that you’re right and there’s no evidence anyone could ever bring about to prove otherwise?
uhhhhhh riiiiiight……………………………
…didnt say that…
commenting on the thing about there being something false in every religion– i wasn’t raised up as a christian. i was in 10th grade when i made the decision to live for God. I have studied and looked for things to be false and so far, after 7 years, have not found anything.
memmie- you commented on God being a powerless female- you were hurt by men so don’t want to trust the idea of a male God. I had similar issues. About a year or two ago God showed me a mental picture of HIM being my Daddy and pulling me up on His lap to be my protector, my comforter. It doesn’t make all the bad stuff that happened go away but it does heal the pain that was there because of it. Just wanted to share from my experience.