hmmm… only one comment on that? oh well.
Today is another day that flew by. In fact, I still have a little bit of work that I need to do for tomorrow. It won’t be hard… I just have to do an inner monologue… so basically… I’ll take a minute of my thoughts… edit out anything too personal to do in class… and write that down 😉 How exciting… people will know my inner thoughts. Actually, that’s kind of frightening for them. It’s bad enough *I* have to live with them, let alone share them with others 😉
Oh yeah. I was at the mall today, because my roommate was looking for the new Shane Bernard cd. Family Chrisitian failed to have it. So we went to FYE (note: pronounce it “fyeh”, no, that is not it’s actual name, but it is a good thing to call it.) Anyway, as anyone who has ever heard of this store knows, it is a horribly, horribly overpriced store. like… when stuff goes on sale… it’s ALMOST as low as you can get it if you go to almost any other store. Anyway, I walk in there today… and as I’m looking for Shane Bernard, I see the new Brave Saint Saturn cd…. which I thought was cool, cuz it wasn’t there when i looked for it last tuesday. Anyway, I picked it up and looked at the price… $15. As opposed to the $17 I paid at Family Christian. Does anyone else see something wrong with this? A store KNOWN for being hideously overpriced is selling an album for LESS then the Christian store? Good ‘ol corporate Christianity.
In other news… I have been reading Romans.. and… I came across a chapter which I think makes for good discussion. It is Romans 9. Below is the speciffic portion of it I refer to.
Romans 9:11-23
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad – in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but bnuy him who calls = she was told, “the older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?” But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to him who formed its, ‘why did you make me like this?'” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use? What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath – prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of His glory known to the objects of His mercy, whom He prepared in advance for glory…?”
So clearly this is the issue of Arminianism vs. Calvinism. Thoughts, ideas, comments?
Godspeed.
“Incandescent moon is shining just for you, tonight.
Shimmering, a golden halo, does it follow just beyond your sight?
Sigh… You’re an angel wanting wings for flight, tonight.
Baby’s Breath, in the waxing light.
Glassy seas of blue.
I will dream of you.
Let’s close our eyes till Daylight comes.
Baby’s Breath, and Chrysanthemums.
So beaming blue these dreaming skies,
In soundless sleep now close your eyes.
‘Till Daylight,
‘Till Daylight comes.
I keep feeling, that the strangest peaces is all around.
In the speechless, in this quiet, Angels never make a single sound,
Sigh… Baby’s breath and Lilacs so profound.
Softest moonlight making garlands, forms the crown.
Glassy seas of blue.
I will dream of you.
Let’s close our eyes till Daylight comes.
Baby’s Breath, and Chrysanthemums.
So beaming blue these dreaming skies,
In soundless sleep now close your eyes.
‘Till Daylight,
‘Till Daylight comes.”
-“Babies Breath,” by braveSaintSaturn
I can find CDs at like best buy or target for like $10 and they will be like 16 or 17 at Christian stores…
best buy and target are different though, they make next to nothing off of those cds that you buy for like $10 (which, you will notice, are ONLY new releases… you will pay about 15 for anything that has been out for awhile)… it’s just a method of getting you into the store in hopes you will see and buy other things as you are there. Christian stores can’t compete with that. And Best Buy and Target don’t have everything that one could find at a Christian store.
I can’t believe you paid that much for a cd. You probably could have got it cheaper w/ shipping off their website and supported just BSS and not that store. Again I’m glad the NCU bookstore sells CDs at $13.
Arminianism vs. Calvinism
I’ve been really meaning to look deeper into all this stuff. Now that I actually have some time I may want to do that. Also with these now you can place Open Theism, propounded by Greg Boyd.
For these specific verses you have posted, don’t forget that the context has to do with Paul talking about Israel being the sons of God, but not all of Israel is true Israel, and that God can raise up His people from whereever he wants. This discourse (11-23) after that is trying to drive that home.
Some things in this are still hard to grasp. Such as v. 17,
“For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
This part is weird because Paul was just talking about God’s mercy with using the illustration of Esau and Jacob, and then he seems to switch to Pharaoh out of nowhere.
Would God harden Pharaohs heart so that he wouldn’t turn to Him and give Him credit?
Well, if you look back in Exodus, it is apparent that Pharaoh hardened his own heart first. there are many scriptures that talk about this, such as: 7:13, 22-23, 8:15,19,32. Later, in 9:12 God hardened Pharaohs heart.
Regardless, it still could give evidence to predestination if you wanted to take it that way. The problem I see with either being just calvanist or just arminian (other then the calvinist TULIP, of which I don’t agree with) is that there is almost equal evidence for both. That is why I say again I really need to look into it some more.
Maybe that comment will get some disscution going
Yeah, usually Best Buy has CDs for pretty cheap..
Romans is a GREAT book. =D
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(( . shauna . ))