Why Further Seems Forever Sucks Now
Reason the first: Jonathan Bunch can’t sing. I mean,
this one is the most obvious… the guy can’t carry a tune worth
anything… I mean really, my dog can sing better then this
guy. They really should just pick up a bum off the street and pay
him to sing… he couldn’t be any worse. I mean… who are these
“Sense Field” guys anyway?
Reason the Second: He’s old. I mean how old is this
guy anyway? Late 50’s? They might want to give him a walker
or something… i mean i thought the guy was going to die of a heart
attack or something….
Reason the Third: No stage presence. Watching this guy is like watching paint dry. Really old paint, at that.
Reason the Fourth: He’s not “scene” enough. I mean… Chris
was emo, and Jason was hardcore…. this guy’s like…
jean… jacket.. man….
Reason the Fifth: He doesn’t sound like or have the same range as Chris Carabba.
Reason the Sixth: He doesn’t sound like or have the same range as Jason Gleason.
Reason the Seventh: He lives in California while the rest of the guys
live in FL, and has only been in the band for a total of about 2
months. One of which was spent writing for and recording the new
album.
Reason the Eighth: Cornerstone was only the second time he has
ever done a live show with Further Seems Forever, and the first time he
ever sang any of the old songs in front of a real audience, with the
one exception being The Moon Is Down.
maybe you can see where this is going, or maybe you can’t. i know
some people are sarcasm impaired, so here… let me spell it out for
you….
1. Jon Bunch is actually a really good vocalist. Go listen to a
Sense Field cd. Download a copy of the pre-release of Hide
Nothing. Give an honest listen to the clip of their C-stone show
at cornerstonefestival.com. Keep in mind that there is a reason
that Sense Field did as well as they did, which, by the way, is far
better then Further Seems Forever has done thus far.
2. He’s old compared to Jason Gleason. He is actually
pretty much on par with the age of the rest of this band members (early
30’s). This really has very little to do with talent and the like
anyway, but i mean hey, it’s one of the things I’ve heard said, so I
thought I’d throw it in there…
3. While this is perhaps the most legitimate criticism of what I
heard, he really wasn’t that bad, all things considered, but from what
i have heard he was somewhat lacking in stage presence when in Sense
Field as well. It would be nice if he were to be more energetic
in the shows, but I do not think that FSF’s success depends on it.
4. Yeah… he’s really not very scene. Then, neither is the
rest of Further Seems Forever. The fact that they are no longer
fronted by a hot scene kid probably will make a good many people
dislike them.
5 &6. Maybe you haven’t been listening to FSF long enough to
remember the switch from Carabba to Gleason. I started listening
to them during the switch, and while I never saw Carabba live, I saw a
lot of Jason haters out there. Lots of people saying how much he
sucked and could never compare to Chris. The exact same things
that I hear about Jon now. Jon is different from Jason, no doubt
about it, but Jason was different then Chris. Further Seems
Forever will be good regardless.
7. Yeah, this is a real reason. When you live on the opposite
side of the country from the rest of your band it’s probably somewhat
difficult to squeeze in practice time. The guy hasn’t had enough
time to make these songs his own yet.
8. This reason follows from 7… twice he has performed with FSF.
That’s it. How can you hold a guy who has played 2 shows to the
same standard as a guy who played hundreds? Did he miss
notes? yes. On the OLD songs, which he barely knows, and
which were written for people with entirely different vocal ranges then
himself. Guess who else missed a lot of notes on songs when he
first joined the band….. you got it, Jason Gleason. He
doesn’t have near the range that Chris Carabba has (few people
do). Gleason got better, but honestly, even at his most recent
shows he was unable to hit all the notes… but people grew to
not care so much, and he learned to hide it better, or to adapt the
vocals to more suit his range…. this was him making the song his own,
and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. This is something
that Jon Bunch has not had time to do yet. Also consider this:
When Gleason joined, he had only to learn about 12 songs (TMID, Justice
Previals, and Veangance Factor)… Jon Bunch not only has to
learn about twice that many, he also had to write and learn 10 more,
thanks to the oh-so-loved Gleason’s departure.
As a random other reason that I just thought of… the sound was
actually really bad there…. like the mix was
horrible. maybe it’s cuz it was main stage… i tend to remember
sound on main stage usually being kinda bad… maybe it was also
because they were opening for Blindside and POD. These are big
bands… perhaps the blue mix strikes again.
Anyway, the reason why I write this is because I am amazed at how fickle people
can be. I can understand if you didn’t love the show, to be
honest I was disappointed with how it turned out, I had high
hopes. I guess I can understand leaving the show. I
personally chose to stay and be supportive of them, largely because
Further Seems Forever is one of, if not my favorite, bands.
People leaving didn’t tick me off, although I don’t think anything else
was really going on at the time…., so in that way i don’t
understand… i mean he wasn’t painful to listen to or anything… it
just wasn’t the best FSF show ever. What ticked me off was people
screaming things like “Jon Bunch you suck” and the like. Keep in
mind that if it were not for Jon Bunch Further Seems Forever wouldn’t
exist anymore at all. You lose absolutely nothing by Jon Bunch
being in the band. If you don’t like them anymore, it’s cool,
don’t go see them. You wouldn’t even have the option if it
weren’t for him. You still have the first 2 cds. People
decided by about halfway through the moon is down (the second song
played, the first old song) that he sucked. Honestly speaking,
that’s not really giving him a fair shot. The people that
remained I don’t think even realized that he did an amazing job on New
Year’s Project, because their decision had already been made.
Anyway, having listened to the pre-release of Hide Nothing now, I think
that the cd will do really well, and, given the right promotion, etc,
Further Seems Forever will be likely to take off pretty well… which I
really hope happens, because they deserve it. Anyway, this post
is way longer then I intended it to be. Don’t take it personal if
you didn’t like their set. But maybe you should check them out
again the next time they come through your town, because I really think
that they’re going to be something good.
Read the next post if you are wondering why this is posted here and not misthios.
very good post, jason.
yes, that show SUCKED. big time. he was off key and i’m sure feeling quite embarrassed. there was a lot of pressure on him and i’m sure that made the show even harder. it was so sweet watching Chad (who definitely has the support of the crowd) try to make Jon get accepted.
I stayed for nearly 3 songs before i left.
I’m sure they will get better as they practice together, i’m interested to hear the new album.
(i just took a minute to email encouragement to them. you should too.)
Thanks for the post. Yeah, I stuck throught the concert even though I couldn’t stand the tension – of the off-key singing ringing in my head, the dis-enheartened band, and the crowd’s response. All I could think of was that I wanted to give the guys a hug because they looked so sad on stage! You could tell they didn’t play/sing as well as they could have – but how many people would in that situation? I am really looking forward to their new CD, though…to see the new style Jon and the band have come up with. Jon will be more in his element, so it should be good.