{"id":295,"date":"2004-07-07T10:52:25","date_gmt":"2004-07-07T14:52:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/darkestlight.org\/xanga\/?p=295"},"modified":"2004-07-07T10:52:25","modified_gmt":"2004-07-07T14:52:25","slug":"295","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/darkestlight.org\/xanga\/?p=295","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><center><\/p>\n<h3><font color=\"red\"><u>Why Further Seems Forever Sucks Now<\/u><\/font><\/h3>\n<p><\/center>So I guess I&#8217;ve decided to jump on the bandwagon and join the Jon Bunch haters.&nbsp; Here&#8217;s why:<\/p>\n<p>Reason the first:&nbsp; Jonathan Bunch can&#8217;t sing. &nbsp; I mean,<br \/>\nthis one is the most obvious&#8230; the guy can&#8217;t carry a tune worth<br \/>\nanything&#8230;&nbsp; I mean really, my dog can sing better then this<br \/>\nguy.&nbsp; They really should just pick up a bum off the street and pay<br \/>\nhim to sing&#8230; he couldn&#8217;t be any worse.&nbsp; I mean&#8230; who are these<br \/>\n&#8220;Sense Field&#8221; guys anyway?<\/p>\n<p>Reason the Second:&nbsp; He&#8217;s old.&nbsp;&nbsp; I mean how old is this<br \/>\nguy anyway?&nbsp; Late 50&#8217;s?&nbsp; They might want to give him a walker<br \/>\nor something&#8230; i mean i thought the guy was going to die of a heart<br \/>\nattack or something&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Reason the Third:&nbsp; No stage presence.&nbsp; Watching this guy is like watching paint dry.&nbsp; Really old paint, at that.<\/p>\n<p>Reason the Fourth:&nbsp; He&#8217;s not &#8220;scene&#8221; enough.&nbsp; I mean&#8230; Chris<br \/>\nwas emo, and Jason was hardcore&#8230;.&nbsp; this guy&#8217;s like&#8230;&nbsp;<br \/>\njean&#8230; jacket.. man&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Reason the Fifth:&nbsp; He doesn&#8217;t sound like or have the same range as Chris Carabba.<\/p>\n<p>Reason the Sixth: He doesn&#8217;t sound like or have the same range as Jason Gleason.<\/p>\n<p>Reason the Seventh: He lives in California while the rest of the guys<br \/>\nlive in FL, and has only been in the band for a total of about 2<br \/>\nmonths.&nbsp; One of which was spent writing for and recording the new<br \/>\nalbum.<\/p>\n<p>Reason the Eighth:&nbsp; Cornerstone was only the second time he has<br \/>\never done a live show with Further Seems Forever, and the first time he<br \/>\never sang any of the old songs in front of a real audience, with the<br \/>\none exception being The Moon Is Down.<\/p>\n<p>maybe you can see where this is going, or maybe you can&#8217;t.&nbsp; i know<br \/>\nsome people are sarcasm impaired, so here&#8230; let me spell it out for<br \/>\nyou&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>1. Jon Bunch is actually a really good vocalist.&nbsp; Go listen to a<br \/>\nSense Field cd.&nbsp; Download a copy of the pre-release of Hide<br \/>\nNothing.&nbsp; Give an honest listen to the clip of their C-stone show<br \/>\nat cornerstonefestival.com.&nbsp; Keep in mind that there is a reason<br \/>\nthat Sense Field did as well as they did, which, by the way, is far<br \/>\nbetter then Further Seems Forever has done thus far.<\/p>\n<p>2.&nbsp; He&#8217;s old compared to Jason Gleason.&nbsp; He is actually<br \/>\npretty much on par with the age of the rest of this band members (early<br \/>\n30&#8217;s).&nbsp; This really has very little to do with talent and the like<br \/>\nanyway, but i mean hey, it&#8217;s one of the things I&#8217;ve heard said, so I<br \/>\nthought I&#8217;d throw it in there&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>3.&nbsp; While this is perhaps the most legitimate criticism of what I<br \/>\nheard, he really wasn&#8217;t that bad, all things considered, but from what<br \/>\ni have heard he was somewhat lacking in stage presence when in Sense<br \/>\nField as well.&nbsp; It would be nice if he were to be more energetic<br \/>\nin the shows, but I do not think that FSF&#8217;s success depends on it.<\/p>\n<p>4.&nbsp; Yeah&#8230; he&#8217;s really not very scene.&nbsp; Then, neither is the<br \/>\nrest of Further Seems Forever.&nbsp; The fact that they are no longer<br \/>\nfronted by a hot scene kid probably will make a good many people<br \/>\ndislike them.<\/p>\n<p>5 &amp;6.&nbsp; Maybe you haven&#8217;t been listening to FSF long enough to<br \/>\nremember the switch from Carabba to Gleason.&nbsp; I started listening<br \/>\nto them during the switch, and while I never saw Carabba live, I saw a<br \/>\nlot of Jason haters out there.&nbsp; Lots of people saying how much he<br \/>\nsucked and could never compare to Chris.&nbsp; The exact same things<br \/>\nthat I hear about Jon now.&nbsp; Jon is different from Jason, no doubt<br \/>\nabout it, but Jason was different then Chris.&nbsp; Further Seems<br \/>\nForever will be good regardless.<\/p>\n<p>7. Yeah, this is a real reason.&nbsp; When you live on the opposite<br \/>\nside of the country from the rest of your band it&#8217;s probably somewhat<br \/>\ndifficult to squeeze in practice time.&nbsp; The guy hasn&#8217;t had enough<br \/>\ntime to make these songs his own yet.<\/p>\n<p>8. This reason follows from 7&#8230; twice he has performed with FSF.&nbsp;<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s it.&nbsp; How can you hold a guy who has played 2 shows to the<br \/>\nsame standard as a guy who played hundreds?&nbsp; Did he miss<br \/>\nnotes?&nbsp; yes.&nbsp; On the OLD songs, which he barely knows, and<br \/>\nwhich were written for people with entirely different vocal ranges then<br \/>\nhimself.&nbsp; Guess who else missed a lot of notes on songs when he<br \/>\nfirst joined the band&#8230;..&nbsp; you got it, Jason Gleason.&nbsp; He<br \/>\ndoesn&#8217;t have near the range that Chris Carabba has (few people<br \/>\ndo).&nbsp; Gleason got better, but honestly, even at his most recent<br \/>\nshows he was unable to hit all the notes&#8230;&nbsp; but people grew to<br \/>\nnot care so much, and he learned to hide it better, or to adapt the<br \/>\nvocals to more suit his range&#8230;. this was him making the song his own,<br \/>\nand there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.&nbsp; This is something<br \/>\nthat Jon Bunch has not had time to do yet.&nbsp; Also consider this:<br \/>\nWhen Gleason joined, he had only to learn about 12 songs (TMID, Justice<br \/>\nPrevials, and Veangance Factor)&#8230;&nbsp; Jon Bunch not only has to<br \/>\nlearn about twice that many, he also had to write and learn 10 more,<br \/>\nthanks to the oh-so-loved Gleason&#8217;s departure.<\/p>\n<p>As a random other reason that I just thought of&#8230; the sound was<br \/>\nactually really bad there&#8230;.&nbsp;&nbsp; like the mix was<br \/>\nhorrible.&nbsp; maybe it&#8217;s cuz it was main stage&#8230; i tend to remember<br \/>\nsound on main stage usually being kinda bad&#8230; maybe it was also<br \/>\nbecause they were opening for Blindside and POD.&nbsp; These are big<br \/>\nbands&#8230; perhaps the blue mix strikes again.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, the reason why I write this is because I am amazed at how fickle people<br \/>\ncan be.&nbsp; I can understand if you didn&#8217;t love the show, to be<br \/>\nhonest I was disappointed with how it turned out, I had high<br \/>\nhopes.&nbsp; I guess I can understand leaving the show.&nbsp; I<br \/>\npersonally chose to stay and be supportive of them, largely because<br \/>\nFurther Seems Forever is one of, if not my favorite, bands.&nbsp;<br \/>\nPeople leaving didn&#8217;t tick me off, although I don&#8217;t think anything else<br \/>\nwas really going on at the time&#8230;., so in that way i don&#8217;t<br \/>\nunderstand&#8230; i mean he wasn&#8217;t painful to listen to or anything&#8230; it<br \/>\njust wasn&#8217;t the best FSF show ever.&nbsp; What ticked me off was people<br \/>\nscreaming things like &#8220;Jon Bunch you suck&#8221; and the like.&nbsp; Keep in<br \/>\nmind that if it were not for Jon Bunch Further Seems Forever wouldn&#8217;t<br \/>\nexist anymore at all.&nbsp; You lose absolutely nothing by Jon Bunch<br \/>\nbeing in the band.&nbsp; If you don&#8217;t like them anymore, it&#8217;s cool,<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t go see them.&nbsp; You wouldn&#8217;t even have the option if it<br \/>\nweren&#8217;t for him.&nbsp; You still have the first 2 cds.&nbsp; People<br \/>\ndecided by about halfway through the moon is down (the second song<br \/>\nplayed, the first old song) that he sucked.&nbsp; Honestly speaking,<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s not really giving him a fair shot.&nbsp; The people that<br \/>\nremained I don&#8217;t think even realized that he did an amazing job on New<br \/>\nYear&#8217;s Project, because their decision had already been made.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, having listened to the pre-release of Hide Nothing now, I think<br \/>\nthat the cd will do really well, and, given the right promotion, etc,<br \/>\nFurther Seems Forever will be likely to take off pretty well&#8230; which I<br \/>\nreally hope happens, because they deserve it.&nbsp; Anyway, this post<br \/>\nis way longer then I intended it to be.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t take it personal if<br \/>\nyou didn&#8217;t like their set.&nbsp; But maybe you should check them out<br \/>\nagain the next time they come through your town, because I really think<br \/>\nthat they&#8217;re going to be something good.<\/p>\n<p>Read the next post if you are wondering why this is posted here and not misthios.<\/p>\n<p><b><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why Further Seems Forever Sucks Now So I guess I&#8217;ve decided to jump on the bandwagon and join the Jon Bunch haters.&nbsp; 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